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Life After MLM

Episode 26: Amanda Sekiguchi - Part 2

Life After MLM

Roberta Blevins

Society & Culture, Education

4.41K Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2021

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

In the conclusion of Amanda's story, we finish up the BITE model and talk about the artificial "mentorship" and friendships of MLM. Once she understood what was actually happening, she became fiercely protective of her groups outside of Amway and started to realize that this wasn't what she signed up for. Her and her husband decided that it was time to leave, and shortly after things began to change. Show Notes Steven Hassan’s BITE Model of Authoritarian Control - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/ LAMLM : The BITE Model with Josie Naikoi Part 1 - https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-19--Josie-Naikoi---The-BITE-Model---Part-1-eurvav LAMLM : The BITE Model with Josie Naikoi Part 2 - https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-20--Josie-Naikoi---The-BITE-Model---Part-2-eutm6n Josie Naikoi "Not the Good Girl" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4DMThX0F-h6F1nzCbp6shw Savy Leister "Savy Writes Books" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9WShNx2HsXRGjj9F593HzA Haley O'Bryan "Counselor Haley" - https://www.instagram.com/counselorhaley/?hl=en Nutrilite - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutrilite The Pyramid of Amway - https://arrestyourdebt.com/amway-pyramid-scheme/ Amway Made China a Billion-Dollar Market. Now It Faces a Crackdown. - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/business/amway-china.html What Happened When China Joined the WTO? - https://world101.cfr.org/global-era-issues/trade/what-happened-when-china-joined-wto Amway - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway Direct Selling in China: Multi-Level Marketing, But Not As You Know It - https://www.tmogroup.asia/direct-selling-in-china-multi-level-marketing/ Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS How can you help? Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/ Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/ Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide Support the Podcast! Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/ Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa Find me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevins Become a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support *Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, I'm Roberta Blovins, and this is life after M. L. M. L. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. A. A podcast where we work to end the stigma of failure in an industry designed for you to fail.

0:17.0

It's conditional. It's conditional friendship as opposed to unconditional friendship.

0:25.0

Absolutely, but again, the only friends that we were really allowed to have

0:31.0

was our upline and downline. And so you know you could talk

0:34.5

casually with these people but even in your upline and downline it was just not, you know, it was very

0:43.0

artificial. artificial, yeah.

0:45.0

One of the other checklists that's on the bite model that is interesting to me,

0:50.0

that happened to me, and see if that happened to you, were you encouraged to spy on other people in your organization and

0:58.7

report back if they were doing things wrong?

1:01.1

No, I, like to monitor to make sure that people, or was that just strictly you were just

1:09.5

supposed to monitor your downline?

1:11.1

You weren't supposed to monitor.

1:12.4

Like you said, you don't talk talk laterally so there probably wasn't that

1:14.9

yeah exactly yeah no it wasn't really that you know they I mean there was a lot of mmm making sure that people are doing what they're supposed to do unspoken there was a lot of unspoken like, I don't know, like, you know, you would be like, well, you know, I've seen people do this and what they would do is they would you know like if I saw somebody doing something that I was like hey is this is this you know good or bad or should we be doing something like this I I go to my upline about it, you know, and they would tell me,

1:56.0

hey, no, no, no, that's like, you know, that's not the way we do things in our, you know, line of sponsorship. And then, you you know the next meeting they'd be talking about it and they'd be like okay this is you know this is not what we do you know so they kind of make an announcement but they they pretended like they were always super classy and better than all the other

2:15.0

MLM, so they try not to get like that. And they always said like, oh, you know, we'll totally

2:20.9

be your friends even if you leave and I never got like publicly

2:28.0

humiliated or shunned for leaving but I'm telling you they completely blocked me out because we have not earned their time anymore now that we've chosen to stuff out.

2:40.0

Right, you're losers now. They don't have time for losers. You lost sorry. Well in the way they talk about it too and this is something that kind of goes into that very, very black and white thinking. You know, they're like, you know, people leave this business because they say that this way of making money is quote unquote not their cup of tea, you know, but you know, okay, so financial freedom isn't your cup of tea. What you know making sure that your wife doesn't have to work a job and can stay home with the kids that's not your cup of tea almost like if you consider any other way of making money

3:15.8

then, you know, you're not a good person.

3:19.1

It's not that it's am way or the highway. That is not reality people like there are so many other ways to make money there's so many other ways to have fulfillment in your life and guess what you can work a

3:33.3

freaking job and have fulfillment. I love my job right now. I think my job is

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