This is the Concealed Carry podcast, episode number 258.

And welcome to the Concealed Carry podcast, part of the ConcealedCary.com network.

I am your host, Riley Bowman, joined today by Mr. Producer, Matthew Marister.

What's going on?

Nothing much, buddy.

Yeah.

Thanks for bringing me back into the fold.

Hey, and Matthew is the guy that is older than he looks. Yeah, I didn't know what you said.

We had that conversation today in a meeting. And it's always, I'm always somehow reminded that,

like, I'm the oldest guy out of everybody, but I'm not that old, but like, I feel old when I look

around and I'm like, dude, why am I the oldest one here?

We were talking about middle age.

And there was quite a bit of discussion on what constitutes middle age.

And because I, you know, I told the team, I said, hey, I take offense at being called middle-aged.

But then at Don, you know, and most of our team is Jacob and I are the same age.

And, you know, most of our team is close to our age or even younger.

And then there's Matthew, which I forget, because you don't look that old, bro, and you certainly

don't act like it, you know.

Yeah, I'm pretty immature, but yeah, I'm 43, so I just keep my hair short so the gray doesn't

show. I try to shave as much as I can because my beard gets gray and, you know, I'm short so I don't, you know,

I guess it all kind of goes in with the, you know, I can, you know, I could always get in

the, like, amusement parks when I was a kid and there's like cut off as a five. I'm like seven

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