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What else, Michael Cohen, at the Trump trial.

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None other than...

And New Carthy.

Rich, how are you?

I'm good Andy, how are you? I feel better seeing National Review world headquarters in your...

Oh yeah, at the office today and because I was in transit I missed the big interview with this guy

Costello that that his name who Bob Costello yeahello, who used to represent Michael Cohen. So we can dive in there or we can we can go

and kind of pick up the the bread crumbs so far what Michael Cohen has testified at the trial.

It's still going on as we speak here on Thursday morning.

So tell me what you want to do, Andy.

I'm at your beck and call.

Well, I have to say it's, we obviously have to tell a little bit of the story

so that people can put it in context. but just as a spectacle to have a guy who's the most important

witness in the case that's the first criminal prosecution of an American president in history

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