it would benefit the argument that's being made.

To be very specific as possible about the alleged corruption,

because even people who are very open to talking about this

say, well, it looks bad.

And certainly there is a suggestion

and probably an obvious implication

that is under Biden's running around telling people,

hey, work with me.

I've got the president's ear.

But that is obviously a kind of soft corruption.

But what even folks who are very open to that

say is, well, there's no red flag

that would actually implicate Biden.

There's no reciprocity on Biden's side.

Hunter is selling his connection to Biden,

but there's no proof that there was any quid pro quo

actually that implicated the president.

Well, unfortunately, there is.

Joe Biden said he never discussed business with his son,

but we have a voice recording of Joe Biden

leaving a message for Hunter Biden

about the New York Times story

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