Welcome to Blockton Reported. I'm Jesse Single. Katie is out this week. She is traversing the national dog dancing circuit with Moose. So instead I'm very pleased to have on Espen Guffeng. Am I pronounced you that right? I'm so bad with names,

dude. I'm sorry. You say it. You say your name. My name is Espen Guffing. Okay. You are a Norwegian

journalist and you have a very crazy story to tell us today. Yeah, I think I have. I'm happy to be

here, Jesse. Although given the choice, I think I would much rather see moose dance but you know there's there's an ocean between us so what's going to do if we could teleport both of us to the dog dancing competition

i would also rather be there this is a pretty solid second choice though but before we

before we get into this story would you just mind telling listeners a little bit about your background

yeah sure so as i said my name is espin goffing and i live in Oslo in Norway. I'm a podcast host. I make a podcast for a center-left think tank called The Agenda, which is kind of connected to the government that we have these days. Also write for a center-right publication every week and in the publications on a regular basis.

What's the center right one called if we have any, uh,

anyone who reads Norwegian listening?

Oh, it's called, it's called Minerva.

Okay.

So you're, so you're,

you're very much in the bar pod wheelhouse.

You got some center left stuff going on, some center right.

You're one of those loathsome centris we hear so much about.

It's a nice place to be, actually. Yeah.

Yes. You get yelled that from both sides. I mean, that's, but that's the part of the game.

It's very fun. Well, do people in Norway yell? I don't, that's not my stereotype of

Scandinavians. Oh, we can yell too. Okay. There's still some Viking back there somewhere. Hopefully there will be very little yelling on this podcast.

But yes, it seems like you're a prolific guy.

You've published something like 250 articles in national Norwegian outlets.

You've written two books, right?

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