Hello and welcome to Thin Air, a podcast dedicated to telling the stories of the missing with new episodes every two weeks.

Then Air is hosted by me Daniel Calderon and me Jordan Sims.

We are two friends and writers who wanted to share the stories of

those left behind and the social issues that surround these haunting cases.

For more information about us and our podcast, check out Thin Air Podcast.com,

where you'll find blogs on all our episodes,

links to our sources, and more.

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Launch to support our podcast directly. Head on over to Patreon.com slash Thin Air Podcast.

We've recently been working on Patreon exclusive mini episodes,

available for only five dollars a month.

These many episodes let us discuss topics and cases that just don't quite fit into our regular episodes.

We also get to explore extra content and commentary on episodes we've done before.

For example, two weeks ago, our mini episode was more on David Snutton and included extended interviews and our thoughts on the recent return and

death of North Korean detainee Otto Warmbier. We wanted you guys to get a sense of what these episodes

are like, so here's a clip from that episode.

If Trump did personally assure Otto's return as Tylerson claims, why like this and why now?

And what conversations are happening about Americans in North Korea? To me, the most likely thing to happen was that Otto was returned by North Korea once they realized he was gravely ill.

As Greg said, you can't have him actually die there because that would look terrible, which to me is strange because doesn't it look terrible already?

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