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Philosophize This!

Episode #248 ... What philosophers say about lying.

Philosophize This!

Stephen West

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Education

4.817.1K Ratings

🗓️ 31 May 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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0:00.0

Hello, everyone. I'm Stephen West. This is Philosophies This. Patreon.com slash philosophize this,

0:06.9

Philosophical writing on Substack et Philosophies This on there. I hope you love the show today.

0:11.7

So as you no doubt noticed when you saw the title of this podcast, there's going to be an episode

0:15.6

about the philosophy of lying. What were the thoughts of some of the greatest philosophers who

0:19.5

have ever lived about lying?

0:40.8

And what are their thoughts on whether it's a good thing for people to do or not? Now, for some people, this may seem like there's a really obvious answer to it. Why even talk about any of this stuff? But I think this is a good example of something where philosophy can deepen the way that you see the world by taking a minute to look at some of the less common sense ways of thinking about it. So I think it's worth noting here at the very start of this a fairly typical way that people

0:40.9

like to think about lying. There's no doubt going to be plenty of people listening to this

0:44.4

that assume a few different things about it. That what a lie is is when somebody knowingly makes

0:49.3

a false statement trying to deceive someone else. That lying is deeply wrong at its core, that I live my life,

0:56.4

99.9% of the time not telling lies like this, and that as a general principle, living in alignment

1:01.9

with the truth about the world, is clearly superior to having a view of anything that's based on

1:06.0

stuff that is false. I mean, what kind of person would you have to be to not want to be living

1:10.4

in the truth,

1:10.9

this person might ask? And these may seem like very reasonable assumptions to make about how we go through life. But again, I want to start this episode by using the work of some philosophers to introduce a healthy level of doubt, even a joyous level of doubt, into these otherwise very common ways of looking at things. And the first thing that needs to be questioned, I think, is this idea that the truth is something that is always superior to a falsehood

1:31.7

in every situation. Is that something that most people actually believe in when they say it?

1:37.9

Well, of all people, the philosopher Frederick Nietzsche actually talks about this idea at multiple

1:41.4

points throughout his work. The way he sees it, this is one of those idols that he smashes from the history of Western philosophy. He says

1:47.9

the philosophers have essentially always done their work, just assuming that better human

1:52.0

thought is always going to be centered around getting closer and closer to the truth.

1:55.9

But he points out how, even if you just think about that statement a little bit, the fact

2:00.0

that a belief is

2:00.8

false is not automatically an argument against it.

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