Episode 245 | Simon Freeman and Mario Fraioli on "Peak Running," Event Hype, and Fundamentals Over Fads

the morning shakeout podcast

Coaching, Marathons, Sports, Olympics, Running, Ultrarunning

4.8 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 31 May 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

I recently sat down with my good friend and frequent podcast guest Simon Freeman, the co-founder and publisher of my favorite running magazine, Like The Wind, for our second quarterly conversation of 2025, which you can listen to wherever you get the morning shakeout podcast. An excerpt of this exchange can be found in Issue #45 of LtW, which comes out this week. (You can buy a copy or subscribe here.)

In this episode we discuss the idea of "peak running," the seemingly ever-growing hype around events, fundamentals over fads in training, why chasing optimization if a fool's errand, and a lot more.

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0:00.0	You're listening to the Morning Shakeout podcast.
0:04.3	I love to run, period.
0:07.2	You can always run faster.
0:09.2	Forever, you're going to feel something.
0:12.1	You're going to run into roadblocks, but that's also going to teach you how to handle things in life.
0:17.3	I don't think we want to be like rocks where we're not affected by anything.
0:21.0	It's not maybe a physical thing, but it's a mental thing.
0:24.1	There's like two voices in me, and alpha and beta.
0:27.3	All I was really trying to do was just keep moving forward.
0:32.6	Every single runner knows what that means.
0:36.1	My life has a purpose, and maybe it's not what I thought it was going to be, but...
0:40.3	There were times when I didn't think I would be able to come back.
0:44.5	There's a lot of people that had different gifts, and they don't use it.
0:48.8	I think if we all use our gifts, we could do something really special, not for ourselves,
0:53.2	but our family.
0:54.3	If we're really good, we could do something for our community, wherever we live.
1:02.7	What is up, everybody?
1:10.1	It's your host, Mario Fraoli.
1:11.7	We are back with the latest episode of the Morning Shakeout podcast.
1:15.5	And here, as always, to set this one up for me, with me is my right-hand man, Chris Douglas.
1:21.0	Chris, how you doing?
1:22.7	Pretty good, pretty good.
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