Episode 244 - "Are You, Like, Over The First Amendment?" (w/ Branko Marcetic & Andrew Fishman)
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🗓️ 19 January 2023
⏱️ 72 minutes
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President of Intercept Brazil Andrew Fishman & Jacobin columnist Branko Marcetic join Briahna for a deep dive into Brazil's version of 1/6. Was it, in fact, a legitimate coup attempt? And what role did social media play in the storming of Brazil's capital? Then we pivot to a philosophical conversation about the role Brazil's speech laws, which allow for many more constraints on speech than our own first amendment does, are a better match for a country that has recently experienced an actual military coup. Is the commitment to free speech absolutism so common in America a product of political naivety in a country that's never really experienced the full potential consequences of home grown fascism? Does the first amendment provide protections that sincerely protect minority views, or does it just create the perception that speech is free at the same time that tech platforms, news papers owned by billionaires, and corporate campaign spending neuter dissident voices? Are Glenn Greenwald's criticisms of limitations on speech occurring in Brazil overly reliant on a US lens/speech framework? Or is there a there there?
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Produced by Armand Aviram.
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| 0:35.7 | I'm so glad to be welcoming Bronco March toach Teach Back to Bad Faith podcast. He was on |
| 0:40.5 | what, maybe just a few weeks ago, but your foreign policy analysis is always welcome. |
| 0:47.9 | Well, thank you. Thank you. I'm glad to be here discussing another very cheery topic with you. |
| 0:53.0 | And of course, that's sarcasm, but we'll make it fun. |
| 0:56.1 | We'll figure out of way. |
| 0:57.2 | Also joining us for the first time on Bad Faith podcast, Andrew Fishman, who I have just |
| 1:02.1 | learned is now President of Intercept Brazil. |
| 1:04.5 | Welcome, Andrew. |
| 1:05.5 | Thanks for having me. |
| 1:06.5 | Okay. |
| 1:06.9 | So what I want to talk to you about is recent political events in Brazil. We had a guest on Rising recently who I hoped to shed some light on some stuff, but it became very clear that he wasn't as knowledgeable, shall we say, as I would have liked. And I was racking my brain about who to talk to to fill in the gaps. We also just did an episode earlier this week with Glenn Greenwald, who I know people have been criticizing about some of his Brazil coverage of late with respect to some speech laws. |
| 1:34.7 | And I just wanted to have a better understanding of where these takes were coming from, what the criticisms were grounded in, what actually is happening from people who are a little bit closer to the issue. |
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