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President of Intercept Brazil Andrew Fishman & Jacobin columnist Branko Marcetic join Briahna for a deep dive into Brazil's version of 1/6. Was it, in fact, a legitimate coup attempt? And what role did social media play in the storming of Brazil's capital? Then we pivot to a philosophical conversation about the role Brazil's speech laws, which allow for many more constraints on speech than our own first amendment does, are a better match for a country that has recently experienced an actual military coup. Is the commitment to free speech absolutism so common in America a product of political naivety in a country that's never really experienced the full potential consequences of home grown fascism? Does the first amendment provide protections that sincerely protect minority views, or does it just create the perception that speech is free at the same time that tech platforms, news papers owned by billionaires, and corporate campaign spending neuter dissident voices? Are Glenn Greenwald's criticisms of limitations on speech occurring in Brazil overly reliant on a US lens/speech framework? Or is there a there there?

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Produced by Armand Aviram.

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