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Hidden Brain

Episode 24: Tribes and Traitors

Hidden Brain

Hidden Brain Media

Arts, Science, Performing Arts, Social Sciences

4.640.4K Ratings

🗓️ 22 March 2016

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

This week on Hidden Brain, two remarkable stories of empathy... And why showing empathy for another group can feel so threatening to our own tribes.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Hidden Brain, I'm Shankar Vedanta.

0:04.8

Around the world, parents, schools and religious leaders talk about the importance of empathy.

0:11.4

We tell our children that seeing things from another child's point of view is a sign of wisdom.

0:17.3

Today we bring you two stories of empathy.

0:20.0

What makes these stories unusual is that this is not the ordinary kind of empathy we display

0:24.8

toward friends.

0:26.6

This empathy is much harder.

0:29.2

It's about putting yourself in the shoes of your enemies.

0:32.8

I think that the two big elements that are lacking from the discourse on both sides is one

0:40.4

a massive lack of hope and two this unbelievable lack of empathy.

0:46.4

There's a reason we don't see a lot of this kind of empathy in the world.

0:49.4

It's hard, sure.

0:50.9

But also, one of the most enduring psychological drives in human nature is to be part of a tribe.

0:57.5

When someone in our tribe starts seeing things from the point of view of another tribe,

1:02.2

we have a name for people like that, traders.

1:05.3

What was most hurtful for me, most painful, was nobody stood by me.

1:12.6

Hard though it is, this kind of empathy accomplishes remarkable things.

1:16.7

For one thing, when an enemy sees things from your point of view, she stops being your

1:21.3

enemy.

1:22.5

This kind of empathy can melt hearts, bring down walls.

1:26.2

And that's what makes it dangerous.

1:28.4

And I'm staring at this wall of the window of the bus at the Kalamdiya checkpoint.

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