When your weed growing empire starts to expand, you will need to choose your employees carefully.

Things can get out of hand quickly and you need to manage your response.

Tonight I'm going to tell you about an operation in how not to do it.

Hi, this is your host,

Cambo, grab a beer and pull up a deck chair.

This is True Crime Island, another true crime podcast.

So what happens when you grow a bit of pot for yourself and a few mates?

Well you might find that it was pretty easy and try to grow a bit more next time.

Then you realize that you need to buy a bit more equipment and up the scale a bit more.

Maybe then you find that you can grow a little bit more than you need

and can make a little bit of money on the side as well. Things seem to be going

well and so your little harmless hobby gets a little bit bigger again.

Then as you start becoming the expert pot grower

and your bedroom and garage are now just not big enough,

you may want to go full on and industrial.

So this story today is a story on how things can get big out of hand and if you don't make the right decisions people can die and others will go to jail.

I'll start at the beginning.

This all started late 2013.

Most of this has come from court records rather than media accounts.

Let's get to know the people involved in this story.

Philip John Holder was born 1961 and was aged 52

and Donald John Cameron born in 1952 and was aged 61.

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