Episode 24 - Motherhood as a Journey of Individuation

This Jungian Life Podcast

Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.7 • 2.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 September 2018

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

The experience of motherhood evokes powerful feelings, ranging from joy and bonding to anger and rejection. If we can develop a conscious relationship with these feelings, we meet both denied aspects of ourselves—our shadows—and experience the pleasures and enrichment of mothering that serve the individuation process.

You can learn more about Lisa's work on motherhood here.

The Dream:

I was visiting the home of a friend who doesn’t exist in the real world. She lives with her mother in a house near woods in another state. She’s very talkative and a good friend but is ill and can’t work. We hung around the house and laughed and talked, can’t recall what about—shared history, I guess. I was sure this was not my first visit and we’ve known each other a long time. To stress again, the person in the dream is nobody I’ve ever met in real life. We connected well but I had to go. I wanted to call her but didn’t have a phone number. She said she would email me. I woke with a sense of confusion that my friend didn’t actually exist.

Transcript

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0:00.0	Welcome to this Jungian life.
0:03.0	Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marciano, Deborah Stewart and Joseph Lee,
0:09.0	invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day.
0:17.0	I'm Lisa Marciano and I'm a youngian analyst in Philadelphia.
0:22.0	I'm Joseph Lee and I'm a youngian analyst in Philadelphia. I'm Joseph Lee and I'm a youngian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
0:27.0	I'm Deborah Stewart, a youngian analyst on Cape Cod.
0:31.0	Today we're going to talk about the experience of motherhood and in particular
0:37.8	motherhood as a journey, a process of individuation.
0:43.4	And we know Joseph and I that this is a special interest of yours,
0:47.8	Lisa.
0:48.3	You've been working on this and writing about it
0:51.0	and doing workshops on it for easily 10 years I think.
0:56.0	Yeah, what a coincidence.
0:57.5	And I think you've got a book in the oven about all of this.
1:01.0	I do.
1:02.0	I am working on a book about motherhood as an
1:06.6	individuation opportunity so I mean because my story is that I got into training when my daughter was not quite a year old.
1:18.9	So I started training when she was just a little over a year old.
1:22.1	And then early in training, I had my second child.
1:25.4	And so these two things happen very much for me
1:28.3	in tandem, motherhood and analytic training,
1:31.0	which was wonderful in so many ways.
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