It's Wednesday, August 15th, and you're listening to the Secret Caball Gaming Podcast.

Today, the founders review La Havra, and discuss living card games and collectible card games.

And now, please welcome the Secret Caball Founders.

Hello, and welcome to episode 24 of the Secret Caball Gaming Podcast.

My name is Jamie.

Tony here.

Hello, folks, Brian.

Well, there's no Chris there.

Tony was out last time with California.

Well, this time Chris has some sort of family emergency that he had to deal with.

So he's going to miss part of this episode.

But I believe he might be back later.

Not sure.

So, Jamie, Brian, you guys went to the World Board Gaming Championships.

We had it up there for Saturday, just the one day of the con.

And first game con, I guess I can, I've been to Pax West, which they had some game stuff there.

But for the most part, I don't really consider that like a hobby board gamer type con.

So it was my first game con aside from Orisons.

And it was, it was interesting. The layout of the convention was not conducive to good gaming,

I don't think. Yeah, it's not really a convention hall as much as it is. It's really set up for

like corporate events. You know, they'll have a lot of rooms for seminars and a lot of hallways that

have, you know, meeting rooms and that kind of stuff in it. So it's really kind of rooms for seminars and a lot of hallways that have, you know, meeting rooms and

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