Welcome back to the No One Told Us podcast. This week I am so, so excited to talk to one of my very favorite Instagram personalities and snack aficionados and midwives.

Elaine is a midwife, a birth debrief facilitator and author and a mom of two. After working as a midwife in a busy debrief facilitator, an author, and a mom of two. After working as a midwife

in a busy hospital in South London, she left to embark on this journey to support those

in perinatal trauma. Informed by her own birth experiences, Ileine is dedicated to supporting

women and their families to overcoming difficult perinatal experiences. On Instagram at Mixing Up

Motherhood, Ileine discusses all things motherhood, pregnancy and childbirth and maternal

mental health. And she empowers women through her education. And also just like your warmth and

your humor, you just give it all to us over on Instagram. Thank you so much for being

here on the podcast. No, thank you for having me. I've been in your comment section like, pick me,

pick me. Like, I want to come and talk. Well, it was an easy choice. But you know, you just got to

shoot your shot. No, it was an easy choice. You've actually been, I mean, I've been like planning and launching this podcast for almost a year now. And you were on my original list of

guests that I would love to have. So I'm so glad that we're finally able to make it happen.

And a lot of people also did request you and request this topic about birth trauma,

which is what we're going to talk about today,

because it is so, I don't know, it just, it seems like something that we're not allowed to talk about

or when we do talk about it, we're kind of gaslit. So there's not a lot of safe spaces to dive

into all the things that can go on with not only birth trauma, but pregnancy trauma or trauma with postpartum experiences or things like that. So I'm really excited for people to hear what you have to say today because I think a lot of times, too, people don't even realize they've been through a trauma until after. And I'm sure that's a big part of your work too. So can you just first share a little bit about you. I know I just introduced you, but I would

love for you to introduce yourself and talk about, you know, what kind of brought you to this work

in the first place. Yeah. So I have two children now. My daughter is five and my son is 20 something

months.

You know second children, who remembers anything.

You just never know.

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