Jonathan why is your beef with poetry similar to

uh... john's beef with uh... the short story and it's just sort of

no you know what it is i have a i have an attention attention i've an attention

problem i don't like poetry the same way I don't like

chess hmm is that I don't have the time to deal with it like I really I really

don't when I when I play chess

I'm a

trusting I bet You look nice today a journal of emotional hygiene. It's terrible, but I've

never ever won a game of chess against anybody.

This is true because I play it as if it's a video game.

And I don't want to sit and think about my moves

and also think about my opponent's moves.

That's very boring to me. And I feel like poetry, you got to kind of do that.

Slam poetry is different. Slam poetry, I feel like there's a...

No, better, no. Is it the performative aspect of the slam no is it the performative aspect it's the

formative aspect of it but like sitting there with a text and and knowing that there's

something important there that I have to I have to I have to I have to read it and go

oh is a slam poem written or improvised originally it can be

written I think you see them reading it off of or at least pretending but there's

no freestyle slam poetry I think there is. Okay. That's closer to like hip-hop, to rapping.

You mean, what I hear Jonathan saying is the part of the problem with chess is you're playing a bunch of

pointy-headed duffises who had a lot of time to read books and think and you're saying you're a man

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