Episode 238: Power and the Church w/Jamin Goggin and Kyle Strobel
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.5 • 4.4K Ratings
🗓️ 7 February 2017
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
What is "power?" Is it good, or bad? Is it worth pursuing? And what if the evangelical church is going about it all wrong? Pastor Jamin Goggin and professor Kyle Strobel talk power and their new book, "The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb." Plus - horse diapers and religious liberty. No, really. This week on the podcast!
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, this is Phil. Welcome back to the show. I am here with Skyjitani. |
| 0:12.0 | I feel. He's still wiping the sleep out of his eye because I had to wake him up to be here by 2pm. |
| 0:21.0 | Because he's a freelance writer. And Christian Taylor is not here. She is moving. |
| 0:27.0 | Is it like a moving day is coming up? There's a move related obligation. A move related obligation. Right. |
| 0:34.0 | You can interpret that hard. She's actually taken a position with the Trump White House. |
| 0:41.0 | Hey, it's a podcast. What do you know? Hey, it's a podcast. And we got video. Hey, it's a podcast. |
| 0:47.0 | Oh, it'll talk to Sky. Hi, but Christians gone. She's not here to smile while I'm singing my song. |
| 1:00.0 | And Sky sure as heck isn't going to smile while I'm singing my song. Hey, it's a podcast. |
| 1:06.0 | Phil, I'm here with the Phil Bishop podcast right here. The Phil Bishop podcast starts right here. |
| 1:12.0 | Okay, we've got guests that are beaming in from the West Coast. Very excited. Very. They're huge stars. Huge. Huge stars. |
| 1:24.0 | You're welcome. Yeah. Yeah. We've got. Jamin. It's Jamin, right? |
| 1:30.0 | Yes. Jamin Goggin or Goggin? Man, you nailed it first time. |
| 1:35.0 | Jamin Goggin. We had a Goggin isorina in college. It was no relation. I said, yeah. |
| 1:42.0 | Did you pay for Sky's isorina? No, but I want to find out whoever that's attached to my family. |
| 1:51.0 | My answer to that Miami University Oxford, Ohio has a Goggin isorina. Who they used to. I think they tore it down. |
| 1:57.0 | Whoa, whoa, whoa. What? This came from the Goggin family. Forget it. Send it back. |
| 2:04.0 | And we have Jamin Goggin and we have Kyle Strobel. Are you any relation to any other Strobels in Christian publishing? |
| 2:12.0 | I am related to many Strobels, many of which are in Christian publishing. There you go. Okay. Anyone's named Lee. |
| 2:20.0 | Lee is my father. Okay. There you go. Yeah. Kyle. I am your father. Kyle Strobel. It was just banging down. Yeah. |
| 2:30.0 | It was when he says he's my father. I mean, it's okay. I could have saved my dad. Yeah. Right. Right. |
| 2:36.0 | Oh, has he ever had to explain anything you've done by writing a short memo called the case for Kyle? |
| 2:43.0 | It's it got close a couple of times in his clothing. |
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