Episode 233 - Fraud Squad? (w/ Kshama Sawant & Ryan Grim)
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🗓️ 8 December 2022
⏱️ 107 minutes
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Seattle city councilmember & Socialist Alternative member Kshama Sawant joins Bad Faith to debate the strategy, adopted by most of the squad, to vote for the union-crushing tentative agreement that averted a legal railworkers strike. Ryan Grim has been accused of "running cover" for the squad members' strategy, while Kshama Sawant argued their vote for a union voting bill was a clear betrayal. Is Ryan right to say it made sense for the squad to follow the advice of some union members who wanted them to adopt that strategy? Or is Kshama right to call that "political gaslighting?" Ryan joins the conversation about half an hour in, and it's a hot but productive conversation. you wont want to miss it.
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Produced by Armand Aviram.
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| 0:00.0 | Do either of you have any responsibility to identify a worker who says that the actual betrayal |
| 0:05.5 | was after Biden sent it to Congress that in their attempt? |
| 0:10.6 | All of it is a betrayal. |
| 0:12.1 | All of it is a betrayal. |
| 0:13.5 | You have to find a single worker who says that that's the betrayal? |
| 0:16.0 | I have to say, Brianna, I find this utterly shocking that someone like Ryan Grim can act like he is defending the workers. |
| 0:24.5 | This is utterly shocking. |
| 0:26.6 | It's absolutely just rank nonsense and it is passing the buck. |
| 0:30.2 | In reality, what is happening is that you are defending the betrayers of the working class. |
| 0:36.3 | It's just beyond the pale. Thank you. I am very glad to be having this conversation today. |
| 1:07.6 | Seattle City Council member Shama Sahuat is back on bad faith. Thank you so much for |
| 1:12.1 | joining us again. Thank you for having me, Brianna. So we are talking now just a few days after the |
| 1:20.2 | Biden administration, Congress as a whole, has forced a business friendly agreement on to rail workers. |
| 1:29.3 | We've been following the story of their strike threat for months now. |
| 1:34.7 | The strike was a varied with a temporary agreement that was negotiated by the Biden administration |
| 1:40.2 | per this 1920s rule that allows the government to intervene because of the enormous impact the |
| 1:47.2 | rail industry has in the U.S. economy. They did so at that point and inverted the strike for a period of |
| 1:52.3 | time. Last week, it came to a head again. And this time, although the crucial central demand |
| 1:59.3 | from railroad workers was strike days. |
| 2:02.7 | They wanted about two weeks of six days. |
| 2:05.8 | There was a proposal for seven days. |
| 2:08.4 | They did not get that. |
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