Hey, welcome to the Happy Rand podcast.

I am Ted Clark joined as always in studio by my good friend and partner in radio Barnabas Piper.

Pipe, we are Sans Ronald J. Martin. and partner in radio, Barnabas Piper.

Pipe, we are Sans, Ronald J. Martin.

Even though it's the lull, it's the dead period

in the conference season.

Our boy found a way to travel this week,

so I don't know where he is but I know that he must be

markedly happier just packing a bag and getting a lanyard somewhere so wherever

you're at Ronald J Martin tip of the cap to you for getting on the road.

We hope you're giving a breakout session somewhere.

And working toward that plan, toward that plenary.

Pipe, do you think this will be the year of the plenary for Ron?

Um, how good do you feel about that?

Because our boys got big dreams, you know, and I want to, I want to both encourage

him and that, but I want to temper the dreams. He down, he down plays them. Yeah, he down plays his dreams when he's talking to us yeah

that's a smart thing to do you don't want to just sort of you know you don't want to

expose yourself to either ridicule or disappointment but yeah we know that deep down in his heart,

he invisions himself on a big stage

saying many words for lengthy periods of time

about a text of scripture or a point of theology.

Dude, that's right. that's the dream right there.

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