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Philosophize This!

Episode #231 ... The Late Work of Wittgenstein - Language Games

Philosophize This!

Stephen West

Education, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.816.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Today we talk about the late work of Wittgenstein in Philosophical Investigations. We talk about the meaning of words. Augustine's theory. Forms of life. Rules and practices. Grammar. Geometry. Family resemblance. And the role of a philosopher on the other side of accepting this view of language. Hope you love it. :) Sponsors: ZocDoc: https://www.ZocDoc.com/PHILO Quince: https://www.QUINCE.com/pt Better Help: https://www.BetterHelp.com/PHILTHIS Thank you so much for listening! Could never do this without your help.  Website: https://www.philosophizethis.org/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/philosophizethis  Social: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/philosophizethispodcast X: https://twitter.com/iamstephenwest Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/philosophizethisshow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, everyone. I'm Stephen West. This is Philosophize This. Patreon.com slash philosophize this,

0:07.0

Philosophical Writing on Substack, it Philosophize This on there as well. I hope you love the show today.

0:12.3

So there's a tactic that's become pretty popular in what some people would call the debate space

0:17.1

of the internet these days. There's a trick someone will do. We're at the very beginning

0:21.3

of the conversation, they'll ask the other person to define the exact thing that they're going

0:24.9

to be talking about that day. They'll sound kind of like this. Just to start out today,

0:29.1

can you please give me your definition of God? Can you give me a definition of abortion or

0:35.6

insurrection or justice, whatever it is that day. And then the other

0:38.9

person will usually take the bait. They try to give their take on it. Maybe they'll say an insurrection

0:42.6

is when a group of people try to overthrow some form of authority out there. Then the other person

0:48.1

will say back to that, well, based on your definition, is a prison riot an insurrection? Then

0:53.3

that's people overthrowing an authority.

0:55.9

If a union fires a manager that's harassed employees, is that an insurrection? How about if my two

1:00.9

kids both kick me in the shins at the exact same time? Is that an insurrection? I mean, if you

1:05.6

can't even define what it is we're supposed to be talking about today, are you even qualified to be

1:10.1

here?

1:14.1

All the while, this person is usually winning points with the crowd that's watching the debate.

1:17.1

I mean, if the other side can't get to the essence of what we're talking about,

1:18.8

then what are we even talking about?

1:27.9

This scene, actually, isn't too far away from something a lot he'll be familiar with from the history of philosophy. There's a guy that used to do something like this, although he did it in good faith and was trying to avoid rhetoric while he did it. His name was Socrates. Remember, he'd go out

1:33.1

into the public square with people shopping and walking around, and he'd ask them to give him a definition

1:37.5

of something like justice. When they gave him this definition, he'd rip it apart, point out all the

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