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The Common Descent Podcast

Episode 231 - Back to the Water (Secondarily Aquatic Vertebrates)

The Common Descent Podcast

Common Descent

Science, Natural Sciences, Education, Earth Sciences, Science:natural Sciences

4.8764 Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2025

⏱️ 163 minutes

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Summary

Nearly 400 million years ago, an unusual group of fish gave rise to the first land-dwelling vertebrates. Since then, their descendants have repeatedly moved back into the water. This episode, we explore the many ways these species adapt to the challenges of turning a terrestrial body into one that can survive at sea, and we investigate some of the most famous and confusing cases from the fossil record. In the news: post-extinction oceans, croc eggs, damaged dino tails, and meat-eating dung beetles. Time markers:Intro & Announcements: 00:00:00News: 00:05:45 Main discussion, Part 1: 00:40:15Main discussion, Part 2: 01:31:35Patron question: 02:30:30 Check out our website for this episode’s blog post and more: http://commondescentpodcast.com/ Join us on Patreon to support the podcast and enjoy bonus content: https://www.patreon.com/commondescentpodcast Got a topic you want to hear about? Submit your episode request here: https://commondescentpodcast.com/request-a-topic/ Lots more ways to connect with us: https://linktr.ee/common_descent The Intro and Outro music is “On the Origin of Species” by Protodome. More music like this at http://ocremix.org Musical Interludes are "Professor Umlaut" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com). Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0

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0:00.0

You're listening to the Common Descent Podcast.

0:19.0

Hello, David. Hello, Will.

0:21.9

And hello, listeners.

0:23.5

Welcome to episode 231 of the Common Descent Podcast.

0:29.7

This episode, we are talking about secondarily aquatic vertebrates.

0:35.0

Yes, vertebrate animals that went back to the water.

0:39.4

That mist being wet and getting to swim.

0:42.6

Tired of being in the sun.

0:44.4

I feel it.

0:45.4

I get it.

0:45.8

This is whales, seals, sea turtles, all of the things that went out of their way to evolve to be great at living on land and then

0:58.0

decided they were having none of it.

1:00.0

Decided it was overrated and Tectolic made a terrible mistake.

1:04.0

Yes.

1:05.0

It was only a fish.

1:07.0

These were, if you've seen the meme of people being like, I know who to blame for all of my problems, and then it's a picture of Tictolic, yes.

1:14.6

These were the first ones who had that feeling. These were the first vertebrates.

1:20.2

In this episode, we will discuss what it means to be secondary aquatic, what it takes, the adaptations, the difficulties, the challenges to going back

1:29.6

to a life in the water, as well as how we recognize it in the fossil record, and what evolutionary

1:35.5

trends we tend to see in the evolution of secondarily aquatic features. This will be a ton of fun with a bunch of cool examples,

1:46.0

and we are discussing it because it was requested quite a bit.

1:50.3

We got requests for this topic from Hans, Matthew, Anna, Richard, Drew, and Teo Rannosaurus.

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