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Conversations with People Who Hate Me

Episode 23: Unfriended

Conversations with People Who Hate Me

Dylan Marron & TED

Society & Culture

4.71.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2018

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Jabari and Andrew were Facebook friends until the 2016 election tore them apart and one unfriended the other. Dylan connects them on a phone call for their first extended conversation about what happened.

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Conversations with People Who Hate Me is a production of Night Vale Presents. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Christy Gressman (executive producer), Vincent Cacchione (audio engineer, mixer), Rob Wilson (logo designer). Theme song: “These Dark Times” by Caged Animals.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Ted Audio Collective.

0:17.6

I don't think we're friends are we you're not friends wait so who unfriended whom oh God I don't even I mean probably me

0:23.0

Are you I don't know it's definitely you Andrew Andrew? Okay, so Jabari, it wasn't you.

0:24.0

No.

0:25.0

Then I guess it was probably me.

0:26.0

Oh my God.

0:27.0

Yeah, but he did send me that really shitty meme.

0:29.0

Hey listener, a quick favor.

0:31.0

We are conducting an audience survey and we'd be really grateful

0:34.0

if you could take just a few minutes to respond. Please visit survey

0:37.5

dot PRX.org slash Ted to take the survey today. That's survey dot PRX.org slash Ted. Thanks. Hey and welcome to conversations with people who hate me, the show where I take

1:00.4

negative online conversations and move them offline. I'm your host, Dylan Merin. Now in some episodes I chat one-on-one

1:08.1

with folks who wrote negative things to me directly, while other times I moderate

1:12.2

conversations between strangers who clashed with each other.

1:15.9

Today I'm moderating, but not between strangers.

1:19.8

My guests today are friends, or they were friends. They are unfriends.

1:26.0

Jabari and Andrew had been Facebook friends for over a decade when they clashed

1:30.3

over their political views during the 2016 election, but it's not how you might expect.

1:35.9

They are both active participants on the left.

1:39.1

Andrew is proudly a Democrat, while Jabari supports and even ran for local office with the Green Party.

1:45.6

Their disagreements online, which were ultimately about how to best achieve progress, became

1:50.8

so toxic that one unfriended the other.

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