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That is that's a lot of toothpicks Dusty Baker. It's great to have you on the podcast.

Yeah, sure is the only thing is I wouldn't do in toothpicks the whole time. I've probably been the toothpicks the last 15 years or so.

Dusty, take me back to Del Campo High School, your youth.

Oh wow. People tell me that you are to this day people still think

you're the greatest athlete to come out of Sacramento around what age was it

Dusty where you thought that well maybe I can be in the big leagues? Well actually I'd have had that dream since I was a kid you know when I was a

little skinny kid that had speed you know some ability to play most sports except I wasn't very strong I mean I

hated to even go to the weight room because you know all the guys that I could

beat in other sports were were killing me in the weight room and you know I was I was a late bloomer and a slow developer I mean I was actually the last guy you know you know with hair under my arms and hair on my face.

And so, you know, I was one of those kind of kids that, and my dad was the same way and my son's the same way.

You know, Del Campbell High School was a bit of a trip because I came from Riverside, California, where it was mostly very integrated with blacks, Mexicans, and white kids in a few Japanese and Chinese kids.

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