Welcome everybody, your Crystal Kylan friends.

Today we're going to be talking to Shoykot Chakra-Barti.

Now, Shoycott, by the way, I want to ask him, has anybody pronounced your name correctly

since you started running for office?

Because he's running against Nancy Pelosi, which is quite, you know, a feat.

But that being said, she's also like 114 years old. So there's been a lot of talk about gerontocracy

lately might mean that he has a decent shot at it. But anyway, so we're going to talk to him.

He's got an amazing background. First of all, he was a co-founder of Justice Democrats with me and Jank and and a few others, right? He also

was AOC's chief of staff for years, but he also got his start. He was actually in Silicon

Valley and he worked on like engineering the payment processing for Stripe.

That's right. Yeah.

There's been a wide array.

Like he probably knows a bunch of these tech asshole billionaires.

He's been inside in, you know, in the rooms of left wing politics at the highest level.

Now he's running for office.

So there's a lot of stuff we could talk to him about.

I'm really excited for that.

He's also involved with this think tank called New Consensus. And he's been, he's been part of the abundance debate. Really? He, so Azur Klein brought him and Zephyr teach out on his podcast.

Oh, to create. I remember this. Yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right.

To do like the critique from the left. And, you know, Zephyr is very much like the antitrust, anti-monopoly piece. And

Shoycott, like, obviously he embraces that as well, but he has more of like this sort of,

he's Green New Deal. So it's like, you know, it's like FDR for the modern era. And so I thought

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