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Don't worry, I'm here on the ledge podcast, episode 225, let's go.

Welcome to the show.

In this episode, I talked to Sininja expert, David Zaitland, all about this fascinating genus,

focusing on the species,

Sinindia speciosa, the totally OTT and glorious and, well, admittedly, a little bit out of fashion,

florist gloxinia, as it's known, and Sininia Lucatrika.

Perhaps I can say the trendy cousin,

who's very much in demand right now.

Thanks for all the lovely feedback on last week's show

from the Chelsea Flower Show.

And thanks to Diane for becoming a legend.

Joining Patreon this week, and Diane has unlocked lots of extra content including the first 50 episodes of On the Ledge ever made which are only

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