We welcome immigrants, but we want them to come here legally.

Definitely. I think that providing a safe passage is the right thing to do because we keep

them from exposing their lives to enter through a river that is very dangerous and risking the

lives of children and mothers and families. It's not the right way. We need to provide that safe

passage through ports of entry. And I think that right now, something like that is already

happening through exemptions to title 42. Just amplify and secure that process would be excellent.

So Mr. Secretary, let's talk about the border for a minute. We heard from the president

yesterday asked about the situation. He noted that the countries, the triad countries in Mexico,

fewer migrants at this moment are coming the United States. And really instead, it's three other

nations. It's Venezuela, Cuba, and the Caragua. That's where the the issue is. What's your assessment

of that? And what can be done about it? It's very much an evolving picture. When I was in office,

the numbers were annually about 300, 400,000 a year. We're now getting that in a matter of six to eight

weeks. Also, when I was in office, as Sister Norman knows, we were dealing with migrants from the

northern triangle, women, children from Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador. That is less so now. It's as

you noted, Cuba, Nicaragua, and as well. Those countries are literally imploding. And the migration

is headed not just to the north, but to the south as well. On top of that, we do not have diplomatic

relations, good diplomatic relations with these countries. So they do not agree to repatriate their

citizens. We can't send them back in the conventional way like you would in Central America. So the resources

we have on the southern border to deal with this, the border patrol, the holding facilities are much

bigger now than they were seven, eight years. But the numbers are much bigger and the smugglers are

much better at this. They have bigger buses. They have more ability to move larger numbers.

I can't hear any more of the lies and spend. The reason we had northern, but Trump had a deal with

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