Hey, welcome to the Happy Ramp Podcast. I am Ted Cluck.

As always in studio by Barnabas Piper and Pipe, I get the privilege of doing something this morning that we did a couple of years ago that people seem to really like and that's where two of us just kind of interview each other.

So I'm going to be interviewing you today you know I suppose in the future

maybe you'll interview me or Ron Will or whatever and vice versa when we can get we can

get Ron back on the road and back in comfortable environs for him.

Yeah, I feel like he has not been bringing his sort of a game energy to the

podcast and I think it's it's the lack of a hiet place in his life is really what it is I'm pretty sure

Dude, I can hear the despair in Ron's voice when he's at home. Yeah, he's just he's just despond's glum. You know, he's a little bit depressed.

So we gotta, we gotta get our boy back out on the road. We gotta get him retreating and then

he can, he can be himself again. So so we're gonna we're gonna put off the

round Martin interview episode until that time but pipe I'm happy to have you in

studio today because I have a whole bunch of kind of mid-career things that I want to ask you including well

should we do promo reads we probably should yeah like this is a real app so yes

that's right we should do that which means I should have probably been prepared. So our first sponsor is Noah's event

venues as we have talked about before so they they're a company they're actually based out of Utah I

discovered I didn't realize that because they have locations all over the

countries I wasn't paying attention to where they're from I just find

anything based out of Utah pretty for a pretty fascinating I don't I don't really know why just it's

kind of a non-existent place in my mind you know I agree yeah a question on that have

you ever been to Utah I have uh. I was thinking maybe I had like flown through the Salt Lake City

airport, which only sort of counts because airports are twilight zones. They're not really part of a city.

Exactly. So I don't think I have.

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