If you build an empire on the name of Jesus Christ,

but it's not about Jesus Christ,

it's gonna come crashing down at some point.

And you're gonna embarrass yourself

and really embarrass the church in the process.

It's pretty easy to kind of catch the people

that are in it for the wrong reasons,

or are gonna start in Christ and I wanna flip to secular,

whenever they get sort of a platform, whatever,

like we can sniff that stuff out pretty quick around here.

And it's, they usually don't even get signed much less,

you know, get a chance to release an album or a song.

Thanks for tuning in to becoming something,

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for young adults in their 20s and 30s.

Every moment we live is training for a future moment,

and that's why we do this podcast,

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Our hope with this podcast is that it will be

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and a new world.

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