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Hello and welcome to Coming Out with Lauren and Nicole. We are a weekly podcast where we have on

queer folks from all walks of life. They tell us the tales of how they came out to friends, family,

and the world at large.

Because who doesn't love a coming out story?

And then occasionally, years after they initially told us how they came out to friends,

family, and the world at large, we invite them back because our whole deal on this podcast

is we talk about how people are constantly evolving and changing.

And, you know, we're all beautiful caterpillars becoming butterflies, et cetera, et cetera.

So to kind of put our money where our mouths are, we do like to revisit episodes now that we've been doing this podcast for over four years

and check in with our guests.

This is one of those episodes.

It would be great if I explained all this.

And then I was like, we're not doing that this week.

But just so you know, that's what we do sometimes.

No, we are doing that this week.

This is an absolute thrill. Okay, we are sitting here with Ash Holzer. Ash was

originally on episode 33, January of 2019. So fix your brains back to that era. Hi, Ash. Thank you so, so much for rejoining us. Hi. Thank you for having

me. So Ash, Ash is an educational therapist, which is new and is in process and is something

that came up during COVID when all of our lives changed in many ways. Yeah, do you want to introduce yourself

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