Hello and welcome to the NataCast podcast, the one true chapter-by-chapter podcast going through a song of ice and fire.

I'm one of your hosts Emmett, also known as Poor Quentin.

And I'm your other host, Manu, also known as Manucleur Bomb.

And welcome to the 216th episode of the Nauticast titled, Grinding Axes, an analysis of a

storm of swords, John 9, in which the evil turncloak John Snow takes over Castle Black, only

for the brave heroes Janoslint and Alicester Thorn to arrive and bring him down.

Liza Aaron, Janos Lind, Marillion, Alistor Thorn, all of our favorites are finally back into the story.

And soon we're going to get back to us to Steel Shakes Walton, and then the tickler is there.

All the hits.

We're playing all the hits.

So our spoiler warning is always.

Prepare to be spoiled for all five A Song of Ice and Fire novels,

the three Dunkin' Egg novellas, and the histories, interviews, wins of winter, sample chapters,

as well as Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon, the TV shows. Anything and everything.

Our question this episode comes from our patron, George of the Mountain, who asks,

If I remember correctly, we have heard Emmett and Jeff have a discussion on Donald Noyes' discussion of the Barathian Brothers with John. I and the rest of your listeners would love to hear Emmett Amin News unique dialogue on noise metaphor. Thank you all for the podcast. So yeah, Donald Noy, who recently departed RIP in the last John chapter. One of his more famous moments is talking about the Barathean brothers in terms of metals

of course he's a he's an armor so of course he makes that metaphor talking about Robert as the

true steel and Stanis as kind of brittle as being more iron like a strong but also more brittle inclined

to break rather than bend and Renlias as as shiny copper that is nice to look at but not worth all that much.

So do you think that was on point or do you think maybe just been too long since Don't

Unle Noid checked in with any of those boys to really know what was up?

Yeah, it's interesting because I think we're inclined to trust Don't Al Noyes' judgment on things.

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