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Seven Rooms, make magic, make money. What's up, everybody, and welcome to episode 210, the Talking Chop podcast.

I am your host, Brad Rowland.

It is Sunday evening.

We are in very different territory than the last time we talked on a podcast.

And joining me to talk about everything that's going on right now is Eric Cole.

Hello, Eric.

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