Hello everyone I'm Stephen West. This is philosophers this. If you value the show as an educational resource for the rest of the world, consider supporting it on Patreon.

Patreon.com slash philosophers this. With that said, I hope you love the podcast today. So the other day I got a chance to interview a couple legends in the world of philosophy. I got to talk to Peter Singer and Katarjina de Lazari Radic, which by the way at the beginning of the conversation,

she said I could call her Kashiya instead of Katarjina.

I felt so special in the moment.

You guys have no idea how much respect I have for these thinkers doing this job for so long.

I felt so heard and seen in that moment.

Anyway, the two of them are pretty open to talk about anything in this conversation.

So knowing that neither of them are anti-capitalists, I thought

it'd be a good opportunity to continue getting philosophers opinions on the state of the

world and what they think might make that world into a better place from within the

current set of tools we have. But I knew in order to do that, to get those kind of answers,

I had to start the interview coming at these two

as though I was one of these passionate anti-capitalists.

So I turned my hat around backwards.

I threw on my, I would prefer not to Jiezieck t-shirt and I decided to go in hot. The first

question I asked Peter Singer was this. Peter Singer, you've dedicated a

career to writing these books that spread awareness about the moral issues of our time,

animal rights, global poverty, and you've done this while also making it easier for people to contribute to these issues via charities,

should that be something they ever want to do.

But a common critique you've no doubt heard all throughout your time, via charities should that be something they ever want to do.

But a common critique you've no doubt heard all throughout your career

is a sort of anti-capitalist attitude.

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