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For the past few years, I've seen a lot of hand-wringing about Governor Ron DeSantis' agenda to end what he calls woke indoctrination.

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And how does this agenda actually affect the people living and working there?

Especially those who have benefited from the diversity, equity, and inclusion programs that DeSantis' policies would uproot.

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Subscribe now. What's up everybody and welcome to episode 208 of the Talking Chop podcast.

I'm your host, Brad Rowland.

It is Sunday evening in our usual time slot and joining me as very often.

Eric Cole is here.

Hello, sir.

Hello, sir.

It's good to hear your voice.

Yeah, here we are.

It's March, officially.

March first. Baseball's happening.

As we talk, and later this month, Eric, later this month, baseball will count, which I appreciate.

Hey, if you haven't been looking at Twitter.com, the baseball that's happening right now counts, sir.

It does not count at all.

I don't believe you.

Oh, man.

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