Episode 206: Lucretius's Epicurean Physics (Part Two)
The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast
Mark Linsenmayer
4.6 • 2.3K Ratings
🗓️ 7 January 2019
⏱️ 75 minutes
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Summary
More on Lucretius's poem about Epicurean science: On the Nature of Things from the first century BCE.
We talk more about how macroscopic phenomena are supposed to come out of the interaction of atoms, including mind and its processes of knowledge and illusion, including the illusion of love. One conclusion: life after death is not possible. Can the properties of the atoms themselves be explained?
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| 0:46.6 | Hey, this is the partially examined life episode 206 on Lucretius's poem on the Nature of Things. |
| 0:53.5 | We had introduced his atomic theory, his general world view, whereby nothing comes from nothing. |
| 1:01.8 | Cossality is universal and natural. |
| 1:04.2 | There's no room for something outside the order of space and time for the gods to reach in and metal with things. |
| 1:11.2 | And we just introduced as part of the atomic theory, the idea of the swerve that all the particles have some sort of random slight motion. |
| 1:20.4 | And this is supposed to account ultimately for free well. |
| 1:22.6 | Right. Where do we go from here? |
| 1:24.5 | So I wanted to back us back up again, the book one and talk about the stuff that starts at 640, |
| 1:31.0 | where he's talking about Heraclitus and other philosophers, which might just seem like a tedious exercise and defeating other weird theories about how the world is composed, |
| 1:40.6 | for instance, of, you know, a fire that its ultimate element, the ultimate thing is composed of his fire or some combination of earth, air, fire and water. |
| 1:50.6 | And to say that no, it can't really be anything like that. |
| 1:55.4 | In fact, we can explain the qualitative nature of macroscopic phenomena in terms of something that is qualitative itself, except in so far as we think of it as these things that are invisible and have spatial relationships to each other or have spatial shapes and motion. |
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