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Welcome everyone to this episode of the podcast today we're talking about approaching the resurrection of Jesus as a historian and we're talking to professor of new testament at Princeton theological deal Allison.

Yeah, and Dale wrote a book about a year or so ago called the resurrection of Jesus subtitle is apologetics, polemics history and it's really an amazing book and that's really the basis for a lot of our discussion today and I read this and I was just so taken by the his honesty and also with I would say not jumping to conclusions one way or the other about what he's finding.

Because he's also a person of faith but he's also looking as a historian and that you know Jared the other book he mentioned I want to mention here at the outset encountering mystery which is coming out sometime this summer I read an early version of that and it was it's a beautiful book talking about why he looks at the world the way that he does and that affects how he looks at the Bible and it's really quite fascinating stuff but I thought it was a fantastic episode.

I think it is representative of what we do at the Bible for all people which I think for some is frustrating but I found it over the years to be of great comfort that there is a lot out there in terms of what the Bible is what is the resurrection what happened in the Exodus what about Jonah there's all these questions and we end with again more maybe more questions and we have answers but understanding that maybe that's also the nature of reality.

Yeah we better get comfortable with being human right yeah that we just and are we really expected to know right is is all kind of come down to one big theology exam one day I don't think but also I think to the flip side of that is I appreciate folks like Dale and I think you and I we're just because maybe we can't get to the black and white slam dunk answers doesn't mean that we're off the hook for learning and growing and doing the research that we can do quite the opposite we were obligated to do that but not out of a sense of

maybe freedom and expectation rather than fear yeah what are you what are we driven by that and I mean to hear Dale talk about himself as a person but also as a historian and living with that tension that describes a lot of people I know quite frankly maybe for different reasons but I know I'm a Christian I'm supposed to believe this I think I do but intellectually I have these questions well that's not uncommon.

Yeah, that journey of integration, of how do we, how do we live with these different parts of ourselves that sometimes are in conflict with one another?

Yeah, right.

All right, well, let's jump into it.

I'm a Christian, but I'm also an historian and I'm also a doubter and I have questions.

And somehow over the years I've been able to have these different parts of me be friendly with one another.

I don't have to have certainty and I don't even have to have one dominant personality.

I think we are all always reading the text through our experiences, whatever those experiences may be.

Best gift I've ever received has to be a bike when I was younger, a pedal bike.

It was a sort of slick little road bike and I remember it was all like, it was so, it was all wrapped up,

but it was so obvious where it was obviously because nothing shaped like a bike and I had a little ribbon on it and I was so,

I guess, for that was a life changer and I'm still sort of big on cycling around my area now.

So, for that one, change me a little.

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