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🗓️ 30 November 2018
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Content warning: discussion of bodies (especially women's bodies) and ideal beauty, and references to stalking and sexual assault in 80s movies.
When you look at Soulcalibur's Ivy Valentine, plenty of things may come to mind. She's a tall, dominating (in many senses) fighting game character with an exaggerated pin-up figure and a whip, and she's the subject of Kotaku editor Maddy Myers evolving feelings in a recent piece entitled The Inexplicable Sexiness Of Ivy Valentine. In this episode of Waypoint Radio, Danielle, Patrick and Rob gather to talk about the piece, sexualized ladies in games, depictions of desirable bodies in games and movies, and what it means to reclaim a character for your own, whether they were intended for your demographic or not.
Then we take a dip into the question bucket and ponder the need to "go back!" to previous iconic locations in games.
Discussed: Soul Calibur series, Dishonored, Say Anything, Blade Runner
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0:00.0 | Hey folks, just a quick content warning for a discussion of bodies, specifically women's bodies, |
0:06.4 | in media and sexual assault in this episode. |
0:30.0 | From the first day I played Soulcaliber in the early 2000s, up into playing Soulcaliber |
0:45.4 | 6 in the present day, I felt every possible feeling about character Ivy Valentine's tits |
0:51.6 | and ass. Alienated, angry, sad, jealous, embarrassed, bored, horny, amused, jaded. |
1:01.3 | Ivy hasn't changed much throughout the life of the series, but I've changed my mind about her |
1:05.5 | many times over the years. Ivy wears a purple thong leotard with cut out pieces that bear her |
1:10.4 | cleavage and midriff, the detailing and cut of her bustier has changed slightly from game to game, |
1:16.1 | but every version of her look keeps the full curve of both butt cheeks, |
1:21.1 | and breasts and view. She pairs this with thigh high boots, shoulder armor, and a sword that |
1:26.0 | transforms into a whip. When she slings that whip at her opponents, she points her toe and |
1:30.0 | rests a hand under cocktip as though posing for the camera or the player. Those are the words |
1:34.8 | of Maddie Myers over at Kataku and a piece called the inexplicable sexiness of Ivy Valentine. |
1:40.8 | I should note Maddie's personal friend, so we'll put that up top, disclosure, all that good stuff. |
1:46.3 | I'm Danielle Rindo and this is Waypoint Radio 206. Joining me today are Patrick Kleppick. |
1:51.8 | Hello. And Rob Zachny. Hello, hello. So we picked this piece, actually Patrick, you, |
1:58.0 | this one struck your fancy, I believe, and I think it's pretty resonant for a lot of reasons, |
2:03.8 | certainly. Not only is it about, you know, a recent game and a character and something, |
2:09.2 | you know, I think everybody kind of thinks about in terms of game characters and |
2:13.4 | sexy versus exploited and etc, etc. But also it has a lot to do with the sort of continuation of |
2:18.8 | the Bayonetta Discourse, which is something you mentioned when you sort of selected the piece for |
2:24.7 | possible contention for a topic this week. Do you want to talk a tiny bit about the Bayonetta |
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