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Subscribe now. What's up everybody and welcome to episode 205 of the Talking Chop podcast.

I'm your host, Brad Rowland. It is deep into the night here on a Sunday. I know one of us just watched the Oscars and

it wasn't me. Scott Cole was here, everybody. Welcome. Hey, Scott, how's it'll be married? You're back.

I know I'm a married man. It's been about a month since I've been on a pod with you. So life has been busy, married life. It's, you know, it's basically been the same as before. But I guess when you're honeymooning, it's all, you know, it's all good. So yeah, good to be on. Has it been, you know, it feels like it's, it's been a busy winter. I guess things now really kind of ramp up as spring training is right around the corner. And good to get on and kind of touch base. And then we really start to, you know, as you know, it's like 24-7 after that for the next eight or nine months.

Yeah, that's, you know, we haven't had a pod and

most of that's on me. There was a Super Bowl last week, so I wasn't going to try to have anybody

record with me on Sunday night. That would have been a little bit brutal and nothing's really

happened. I mean, Eric and I did the last two podcasts together, one of which you were on your honeymoon

for, the other one you were about to leave, I think. Maybe you were already gone when Ozuna hit.

I think...

Ozuna broke as I was sitting in the Miami airport of all things.

I knew you were in transit somewhere or something, because you had time to at least react to it,

because people were yelling at you to get off Twitter, which I found hilarious.

Like, Scott, why are you on Twitter?

You're like, I don't, I was stuck at Miami airport for like four hours.

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