Episode 205: Getting Laid Off Isn't Your Fault - with Matt Ogawa, VP of Human Resources at Meta

AsianBossGirl

Melody, Helen, and Janet

Personal Journals, Society & Culture, Careers, Business

4.8 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Unexpected and dreaded layoffs may have just happened at your company, and if your job was unfortunately impacted… What should you do next? In recent months, we’ve seen staggering numbers of layoffs in the news, and how this has affected many of our friends working in corporate. To provide additional support and resources, we invited Matt Ogawa, the Vice President of HR Business Partners at Meta Inc., to help shed some light on the other side of the layoffs conversation. You may be wondering: Could I have improved my performance to prevent a layoff? How early do companies know that layoffs are in the pipeline? And what’s the best way to respond to interview questions when you’re asked about your previous role? Matt’s team at Meta focuses on organizational design, talent management, and leadership coaching. He’s also involved in many facets of the API community and is the Executive Advisor for Meta’s API resource group. Having been on both sides of the layoff process, he knows how difficult these situations are for impacted employees. We hope this episode can provide clarity and helpful advice as you find your footing and regain your sense of security again. __________________________________________ Hosts: Melody Cheng, Janet Wang, Helen Wu Contributing Editor: Haemee Kang Editor: Michelle Hsieh __________________________________________ P A R T N E R S • ZocDoc: Download the ZocDoc app for FREE at ZocDoc.com/ABG • Modern Fertility: Get $20 off a test by visiting ModernFertility.com/ABG • The Lavendaire Lifestyle: Discover new episodes every Sunday on YouTube, Spotify, & Apple Podcasts, or visit lavendaire.com to learn more. __________________________________________ C O N N E C T W I T H U S • Subscribe and Follow us @asianbossgirl on Apple Podcasts/Spotify/Amazon Music/YouTube/Instagram/Twitter/Facebook • Listener Survey: Let us know your thoughts on the podcast here • Shoutouts: Give a shoutout on the podcast here • Email: [email protected] __________________________________________ S U P P O R T U S • Merch: asianbossgirl.myshopify.com • Donate: anchor.fm/asianbossgirl/support • More about us at asianbossgirl.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to ABG, Asian Boss Girl, a podcast for the modern-day Asian-American woman.
0:04.2	My name is Helen.
0:05.2	I'm Mel.
0:06.1	I'm Janet.
0:07.2	And I'm Nick.
0:19.6	At the time of this recording, the holidays and gifty season are coming up,
0:23.0	and the elephant in the room seems to be the economy.
0:25.9	All year, we heard whispers of a recession.
0:27.7	And in recent months, we've seen news of layoffs and staggering numbers.
0:31.2	With many of our friends still working in corporate,
0:33.1	we've seen how this has affected the ones close to us.
0:36.0	If you're impacted, we are so sorry to hope that you'll stay strong as you find your next
0:39.8	opportunity.
0:40.8	And we're not feeling your best, remember, it's okay to receive and ask for support.
0:44.9	Before we introduce today's guest, here's some important context.
0:48.9	Given recent and current events, we wanted to invite someone who'd lost their job
0:52.7	during the recent layoffs.
0:54.4	However, we realized non-desparagement clauses are often folded into severance packages,
0:59.5	and we didn't want to accidentally put anyone at risk of not being eligible for their full package.
1:04.3	For anyone who's never heard of non-desparagement clauses,
1:07.3	or aren't sure what they are, non-desparagement clauses are written into contracts,
1:11.2	for example, at hiring or inseparation agreements,
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