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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 204: [Insert Inscrutable Title Here]

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 15 June 2021

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

Hello from Austin! We're back with a new episode!  Tune in as your co-hosts Professor Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate: SCOTUS narrows the scope of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act in Van Buren SCOTUS grants cert. in Fazaga, adding to the sense that the October '21 Term will be unprecedented for its engagement with state secrets privilege and FISA issues The Biden Administration withdraws IEEPA sanctions against TikTok and WeChat...for now, at least! GTMO closure trial-balloon?  About that NBC News story that mentions a possible desire to put the long-term military detainees in a Supermax prison rather than a military facility Over-the-horizon uses of force in Afghanistan post-withdrawal: so, will that be subject to the PPG as a use of force outside a zone of active hostilities? Leak-hunt subpoenas: we've got subpoenas concerning the communications of journalists...and Members of Congress...and the White House Counsel. Where are the legal and policy redlines in such cases? Mike Flynn, Larabee, and the idea of recalling separated servicemembers in order to subject them to court-martial proceedings (based on post-separation conduct) Also, did we mention the Mets are in first place?  Join the MLB-themed frivolity as we ramble about teams and players doing surprisingly well and surprisingly not-so-well!

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 204 of the National Security Law podcast.

0:15.0

We are brought to you, the one and only you, by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas. It's Monday afternoon. It's

0:22.4

June 14th. It's 2021. I'm Bobby Chesney. I'm Steve Vladik. Bobby is the band Stain would say it's been

0:28.5

a while. We should have done this over with candlelight. It's been a while. Because we

0:36.5

recorded like back-to-back days three weeks ago.

0:40.5

So actually, even though it's only been two weeks since our last drop, it's actually

0:43.7

been like two and a half weeks since we recorded.

0:45.7

Yeah, this is our longest break?

0:47.2

This is pushing it.

0:48.4

And we're paying for it now because there are so many good things to talk about.

0:51.6

But I kind of.

0:53.2

But we'll skip all the good stuff.

0:55.1

You'll skip the good stuff and go straight to the frivolity.

0:57.4

No, no, my friends, we have so much good stuff to talk about.

1:00.5

We're going to go to Skodosland.

1:02.2

Where we've got...

1:03.5

What have we got a couple things?

1:04.5

We have a ruling in Van Buren, the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act case.

1:08.7

We've got a cert grant. The term is shaping up, I guess

1:13.8

the October 21 term is shaping up to be a state secrets in FISA-palooza. Fisapalooza?

1:21.1

I mean, from our perspective, yeah, other people would say, and, you know, Roe versus Wade,

1:26.0

affirmative action, you know.

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