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Don't be Colti Hans. Hey, Hunbots and Hunbroughs. It's finally time. It is the first episode of our dive into Scientology and it is a really good episode.

I'm actually really excited for you to listen to this because we get into the similarities of

Scientology and MLM and how Scientology kind of has its own MLM thing going onM-Ething going on and the connections if you know my story and you've been around here for a long time

you know that it was Mike and Leah in Scientology that snapped me out of it that made me realize oh my God I'm in a cold and

made me realize oh my God I'm in a cult.

And through my own deconstruction I got to meet Mike and Leah and be on their show

and Mike came on this show last year and I've always wanted to dive into

Scientology and talk to other people who have been in and go down these different

rabbit holes and tell these different stories because it is so unbelievably wild.

So after our education into evangelicalism

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