Welcome to Turf Talk, I'm Katie Hurshog and joining me today while my assistant

Jesse Singel is locked to the door of the Academy Awards to protest Greta Gerwig's

exclusion from the Oscars. It's not a sheep, not a wolf, but a goat and the

goat Helen Lewis. Helen welcome to Blockton reported. Thank you very much for

having me. You know something really nice happened after I said on the

Christmas pod you know don't be a sheep or a wolf, be a goat,

is that one of your listeners, the lovely Rebecca Hallwitt, made me a very cool painting of what it looks like to be that goat, complete with a little goat eat

like with little trash cans around it that it had eat.

I mean it genuinely like Sarah Daitem was thinking of getting it as a tattoo, it was just really great. That is awesome. I mean it is such a it's not it's not something I had ever heard before because in America we find the idea of like assigning ourselves spirit animals to be very offensive to the indigenous people.

But I think if I were going to have a spirit animal,

a goat is a great one to have.

Yeah, exactly.

They just, they've got very robust stomachs.

And you've got to appreciate that.

As I get older. they ship everywhere they walk.

Helen I'm so happy to have you here I don't think it is any secret because I continue to tell him that I've been

leaking Jesse's address on the

Dark Web, specifically Kiwi Farms, in the hopes that one of them will get his

address and murder him so you can take over this show full time, but unfortunately

they don't seem to care about him that much over there.

I know where's careful's when you need her what she's up to.

Seriously I think she's I think she's on your island somewhere you didn't poutine.

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