Now we're entering a new political era where this should be, this must be, the worst climate

bill that has ever passed in terms of comparing it to future climate bills.

Because if it's not, if this is the best it gets, we are really truly ecologically screwed.

I'm so glad to be joined again on Bad Faith's podcast by David Zeruda.

You know him as the founder of the lever, one of the best sources of news to understand

what's really happening on the hill.

We're the leftist with the greatest degree of institutional knowledge.

Knowledge was actually happening in DC.

And moreover, an amazing creative talent who was the co-writer of Don't Look Up, a movie

that gets proven writer and writer every single day that passes.

Welcome back, David.

Thank you.

Thanks for having me.

Now, you are at the epicenter of this ongoing conflict that often happens once the Democrats

pass something, which is leftists will raise some concerns about misrepresentations about

what a big deal this in fact actually is, what a bill actually does, whether the pieces

of it that are being heralded are actually going to come to fruition and at timescale

that Democrats are actually going to get credit for.

So I want you to tell us what you've been experiencing around the coverage of the inflation

reduction act.

And maybe we should start with specifically the climate piece since that's the piece

that has gotten the most heralding as unprecedented from the mainstream liberal press.

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