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The Minds of Madness - True Crime Stories

Episode 201 - Who Killed Jennifer? - Part 1 of 4 - A Son’s Quest For Answers

The Minds of Madness - True Crime Stories

themindsofmadness

True Crime, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.46.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Andres Shirm spent his entire childhood terrified of a man his family thought was responsible for his mother - Jennifer Lynn Shirm's disappearance. Even the sight of the man’s photo sent Andy into full-on panic attacks.

Although he'd eventually learn that his mother hadn't just been taken - she'd been murdered, it wouldn't be until decades later that he'd learn that the man he'd been afraid of all those years, hadn’t been his mother's murderer at all.

Over the years, police identified several suspects in Jennifer's murder investigation - even making two arrests.

Yet still, close to 40 years later, the question still remains, "Who killed Jennifer?"

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Research & Writing:
Ryan Deininger

Special Thanks to our Guests:
Andres Shirm, a.k.a - SicKTanicK
Shane Waters, Host of Foul Play Crime Series
Mike Gallagher, Former Journalist - Albuquerque, New Mexico
Cynthia Vigil, Founder of Street Safe - Albuquerque, New Mexico
Sam Candeleria, Former Narcotics Investigator, APD
Christine Barber, Former Exec Director of Street Safe & Exec Director of Asur New Mexico

Interview of Cynthia Vigil & Christin Barber conducted by:
Eric A. Carter-Landin, Host & Creator of True Consequences Podcast

Theme music produced for this series - Weary Pines

SOURCES:
Albuquerque Journal (Death on The Cruise)
Albuquerque Journal #2
Albuquerque Journal #3
Albuquerque Journal #4
Albuquerque Journal #5
Albuquerque Journal #6
Albuquerque Journal #7
Albuquerque Journal #8
Albuquerque Journal #9
Albuquerque Journal #10
Albuquerque Journal #11
Albuquerque Journal #12
Albuquerque Journal #13
Albuquerque Journal #14
Albuquerque Journal #15
Albuquerque Journal #16
Albuquerque Journal #17
Albuquerque Tribune #1
Albuquerque Tribune #2
Albuquerque Tribune #3
Albuquerque Tribune #4
Santa Fe New Mexican
Duke City Case Files
lasdesaparecidas.com
Albuquerque Historic Aerial Viewer
ABjournal.com
ABjournal.com #2
ABjournal.com #3
Reward Money Info
"The Missing" - by Maggie Shepard
KOAT.com
State v. Blea
ABjournal.com #4
ABjournal.com #5
KQRE
Lost Girls of The Mesa
Albuquerque Tribune (Montoya)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Book your ticket to happiness with Sun Express Airlines. The following series is based on extensive research conducted over a two-year period,

0:25.3

reviewing various sources including police reports, interviews and newspaper articles.

0:30.8

Throughout our research, individuals involved in the case were attempted to be contacted in order to share their experiences and perspectives.

0:39.0

The opinions expressed in this series do not necessarily reflect those of the Minds of Madness

0:45.0

podcast listener discretion is advised. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, uh, uh, yeah. So, The I, yeah, I, yeah, I, I, yeah. At first it was just my mom's gone and then it became you know your mom was taken by a bad man.

2:05.0

Andrew Sherm spent his entire childhood, terrified of a man his family thought was responsible for his mother, Jennifer Lynnirm's disappearance.

2:14.0

Even the sight of this man's photo

2:17.0

sent handy into panic attacks.

2:20.0

Laying there on the kitchen table

2:22.0

was that picture of that dude. I lost it and I ran, ran into the back room and I ran in this closet.

2:30.4

I shut the door. They could not get me out of that closet. I think I was

2:34.1

there for like three or four hours and anytime they'd open the door I would just

2:38.6

scream at the top of my lungs because I was immobilized with fear.

2:45.0

But as Andy got older he'd learned that his mother hadn't just been taken,

2:50.0

she'd been murdered. It wouldn't be until decades later that he'd find out that the man his family referred to as A L E X hadn't been his mother's murderer at all.

3:02.0

Even as an adult, Andy knew very little when it came to the details

3:06.3

of his mother's homicide, just the basics covered in newspaper articles, and the minimal

3:11.7

information his family told him.

3:14.0

Anything else he'd learned about who'd done it and why were just rumors and speculation.

3:20.0

Over the years, police identified several suspects in Jennifer's murder investigation, even making two arrests.

3:28.0

Yet still close to 40 years later, the question still remains who killed Jennifer.

3:36.6

Join me now into the beginning of our four-part series uncovering long buried secrets after an independent to your investigation

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