You're listening to the Apple Insider Podcast.

Welcome to this episode of the Apple Insider Podcast.

I'm Victor and joining me is Neil notorious Hughes.

Very notorious Victor. How are you?

Also notorious, but not nearly as alertive. My name doesn't work with that. No, not quite.

No, and you know, it's a shame that it doesn't, because what rhymes with V?

Uh, well, I don't know, but I don't know, but you're lying with a letter. with V. What's a littative with V? You can have a litter like a

Victor Vagabond marks? Vivacious? I don't know there's nothing good there.

Vivacious. Ooh there you go vivacious yeah

which is basically just a long-winded way of saying alive voluptuous

just because I fill out the curve. No, it doesn't work.

Curvy and a man is not good.

Come on. I'm just going with the V's here, Victor.

Going with the V's.

All right.

Do one again.

Let's go with the news.

So today, Bloomberg released a story, and Bloomberg's story is that Apple, Amazon, and almost 30 other companies have all been penetrated by Chinese companies

who have planted hacked hardware in their servers on their networks to allow surveillance of these companies.

You know it's funny last month I went to the DJI event in Brooklyn when they were showing

off the new Mavis Pro 2 or whatever it was called.

And they gave me a SD card and immediately I told someone I was like, oh yeah, I got a free

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