What we're saying as transformative and restorative justice practitioners is that the prison is actually an outcome of a broader system of violence and harm that has its roots in slavery and before colonization.

And here we are in this position where all you then think about is replacing

what we currently use prisons for for the new thing. Hi everybody I'm Josie Duffy Rice and I'm Clint. And this is Justice in America. Each show we discuss a topic

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So today's a big day and a sad day but also a wonderful and triumphant day because it is the last episode of season two.

We're 20 episodes in and for me this has been such a wonderful and generative process and I've learned so much and I feel so lucky to do it with my dear friend and

we're so grateful for all the folks who've listened. I think it's gotten a greater

listenership than we could have ever hoped for and we're so grateful for the teachers who use

it in their classrooms for the people coming to this work for the first time learning

about the criminal justice system people who are coming to sort of refine and

clarify their understanding what you should know is that we are learning right alongside you,

and we're grateful for that.

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