Episode #20--Daniel Markey on U.S.-Pakistan Relations and the Haqqani Network

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🗓️ 27 September 2012

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Ritika Singh interviews Council on Foreign Relations Senior Fellow Daniel Markey on U.S.-Pakistan Relations, tensions over drone strikes, and the rise of the Haqqani Network.

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0:43.6	Hello and welcome to the LawFair podcast. I'm Benjamin Wittes. Today's episode
0:50.2	marks the third in a series of interviews that Ridica Singh is recording with
0:54.7	scholars with non-legal expertise in areas of interest to LawFair readers.
1:00.2	Ridica's guest today is counsel on foreign relations senior fellow Dan Markey, an expert on
1:05.9	US-Pakistan relations. Markey served in the State Department's policy planning staff between 2003
1:13.1	and 2007. He is the author of numerous papers, book chapters, and reports on Pakistan-related issues.
1:20.7	He taught at Princeton and did a postdoctoral fellowship at Harvard's old and institute for strategic
1:26.7	studies. Mr. Markey thank you so much for sitting down with me and taking the time to talk about
1:32.2	Pakistan issues. I'd like to begin with a few questions that have broad legal consequences for
1:38.2	America's involvement in Pakistan. First of all, what do we know about how the Pakistani government
1:46.2	views our involvement in the country? I mean over time, their public and private position on
1:53.0	drone strikes has evolved. But what do we know about whether we have their consent to conduct
2:00.3	the operations that we conduct in their country? It's a really good question, really interesting
2:05.1	question, and I think it's changed over time. And I think the answer is not entirely clear to
2:11.9	those of us who are not working inside the US government or inside the inner circles of the
2:16.7	Pakistani government. But let me try to give you a sense as to how I think it's evolved.
2:22.3	Specifically with regard to the drone strike issue, I think we need to bear in mind that it's
2:29.0	again that it's been a dynamic. We started back in 2004 with the first use of drone strikes on
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