Episode 2: The Art of the Untold Story
Against the Rules with Michael Lewis
Pushkin Industries
4.4 • 9.9K Ratings
🗓️ 5 April 2022
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Why can’t we see the experts right in front of us, even when they're saving our lives? Maybe it's because the specialized knowledge of many experts defies good storytelling. We hear from a nonprofit trying to elevate the esoteric work of government experts, and we hear from one of their nominees. His work has changed the survival prospects for many lost at sea, but even those survivors have never heard his name.
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| 0:00.0 | Pushkin. |
| 0:05.4 | It was like a normal day. |
| 0:15.4 | You know, beautiful weather. |
| 0:16.6 | We got our gear packed up, you know, fueled up the boat and headed for Santa Barbara Island |
| 0:24.7 | to go do some fishing. |
| 0:27.4 | His name is Joe Blushdain. |
| 0:29.8 | He's remembering a single day in his life. |
| 0:32.6 | Back in September of 2014, when he was floating off the coast of Southern California. |
| 0:38.4 | On a sleek, 65-foot yacht-fisher. |
| 0:41.6 | I was playing cards with my brother's boss and a couple of bodies and they decided to |
| 0:50.8 | go to sleep because it's a long ride in and I decided to go clean the fish and they |
| 0:56.0 | all went to bed and my brother was behind the wheel, you know, staring the boat and I went |
| 1:03.4 | to grab a bucket of water to get some water in there and that's what it all happened. |
| 1:07.8 | So what happened? |
| 1:09.7 | The bucket of water pulled me in into the water. |
| 1:15.1 | In the moment, what did you think as it was happening? |
| 1:18.8 | In the moment, I thought it was a bad dream. |
| 1:23.5 | No one had seen him fall overboard. |
| 1:26.3 | No one had heard him. |
| 1:27.8 | He had no life fest. |
| 1:29.7 | He watched the boat shrink, then vanish. |
| 1:33.2 | I had a pair of cargo shorts on with a pair of slippers and my sunglasses and that's it. |
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