This podcast was originally recorded in 2019.

We're releasing it again in 2025.

Some small details may have changed.

When you think of Starbucks, what comes to mind?

Maybe it's the coffee itself.

Bitter, strong.

Maybe it's the logo.

The deep green, the long-haired mermaid.

Maybe Starbucks brings up certain memories.

Studying for finals in college or drinking a frappuccino while meeting a friend.

Something you probably don't think about?

Basketball.

And the story we're telling, though, the story of a coffee company and a

basketball franchise are deeply intertwined. Both of their stories revolve around one man, Howard

Schultz, the man who made Starbucks a global force, the man who sold the Seattle

Supersonics to a group from Oklahoma.

If we want to understand what happened to the Sonics,

we need to understand what happened with Starbucks.

We need to hear from Jason Reed and Adam Brown,

the Sonics fans who directed and produced the film Sonics Gate.

How they went from this? He bought the team and I was like, fuck yeah, like let's do this thing, let's win a championship.

To this.

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