You're listening to the Bible for normal people the only God ordained podcast on the internet. I'm Pete ends and I'm Jared bias.

Welcome everyone to this episode of the podcast we have today reimagining scripture for a suffering world with beckas Stevens the founder of this a farm.

Yeah, and if you don't know what this will farm is beckable introduce that herself, but it's just its national is international and it's just yeah, I just the amount of good some people doing the world Jared it's you know so foreign to me.

You know I just talk about the Bible, but anyway, yeah, it's it was we had a wonderful conversation because just it's it's you know we practical is sort of like a word that you know doesn't really mean anything but it's a practical feet on the ground.

Way of really thinking about what it means to be a gospel person, but then also how the Bible works into that in in ways that are you know very creative and imaginative.

Yeah, I appreciate it the fact that for a lot of us, you know in these faith transitions, we can feel stuck on like, okay, how do we live now that these things are shifting and I thought back I gave a really good story for how scripture can continue to be a motivator and an engine for a life that's that's creative and sort of outside the bounds maybe of of how we used to think about.

And for doing some very profound things.

Yeah, right.

People think that the call and scripture is that you and I have to change the world and really the call and scripture is to love the world.

So if I'm going to love the world, that means that I have to accept the fact that I have to change sometimes to love it better.

And it got me thinking about just how intimate and messy healing really is of all the things that I think we don't want to do is sanitize scripture so it's not intimate and messy.

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I love walking with the dog for long periods of time, hopefully it's snowing and you've got to wrap up warm.

So I think a frozen nose and then sweaty armpits because like your wrap tops so warm but then you're climbing hamps and heath and you get to the top and you're like,

and then you can see the breath but then your nose is still freezing to touch.

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Welcome back to the podcast. It's so great to have you.

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