Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.

I am Kate Spencer and I am Dorya Schafferier and we are not experts.

No, but we are too frantic to talk a lot about serums.

We just want to remind you that our website where we linked everything we mentioned on the show is Forever 35 Podcasts.com.

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You really went through that.

I'm forever haunted by the person who told us that our intro was too long and they were annoyed about it.

I literally am forever haunted by that one message.

I don't even remember that.

This is how you and I are different.

You let things roll off your back and I absorb things like a spun.

I think that's a thing that can be taught, not to get us totally off track, but I feel like I used to hold on to criticism or anything like that for a long time.

Maybe it's just because now I have more going on in my brain, but I feel like I don't have the brain space for it.

It just goes in and out.

That's not to say it all goes in and out, but I would say a lot of it does.

I'm impressed. It is not something I have tried.

I still think about the woman who hated my book so, so, so much that she wrote me a scathing email.

Sometimes I think about Googling her to make sure she's okay.

I mean, I still remember her because you sent me that email.

I do, you know what though?

I do occasionally think about the woman who emailed excellent adventure.

Six weeks postpart, when I was six weeks postpartum, to tell me that Matt and I were ungrateful and horrible people.

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